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I've decided to start my journey into modding minecraft and I am wondering if there is any general tips that I should know as someone new to modding.

I'm using eclipse for modding, photoshop/paint.net for texturing. Are there any better tools I could use instead of those?

 

For start I set myself a goal I want to venture to and that is to create a pollution mod;

Stage 1:

- Pollution will be emitted from furnaces, the level at which it becomes full is dependent on 1) if the furnace is in airtight space 2) volume of the space it is in 3) if there are any other furnaces working alongside.

- Polluted air has clear visual and physical effects, the effects go as follows from severity: 1). fog 2) reduced health regeneration 3) being in the area poisons you and slows you down

Stage 2:

- A re-breather which has to have its filters changed every now and then, stops all effects a fog has on the player.

- A monitoring tool to help determine the pollution and air quality levels around the player, there will also be a block form which will emit redstone signal and have a small interface

Stage 3:

- Contaminated blocks and vegetation, as air pollution spreads and sits for too long the grass will become contaminated, all crops will go bad and they become unusable.

- Air around the polluted areas and blocks around can catch fire more easily.

 

How difficult would something like this be to create? Also, is there a community discord server I can join?

 

Thank you!

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31 minutes ago, Solar_Wraith said:

I've decided to start my journey into modding minecraft

Welcome! 

31 minutes ago, Solar_Wraith said:

For start I set myself a goal I want to venture to and that is to create a pollution mod...

Your idea is too big. For example, what is a "airtight space"? Think about how you'd define this whole having a render distance of 1 block (ie suffering the blindness effect). Do doors let air pass through them? Iron bars? Fences? 

 

You're new. You should start simple. Make a single block

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7 minutes ago, Draco18s said:

Welcome! 

Your idea is too big. For example, what is a "airtight space"? Think about how you'd define this whole having a render distance of 1 block (ie suffering the blindness effect). Do doors let air pass through them? Iron bars? Fences? 

 

You're new. You should start simple. Make a single block

For now, I'm going to learn how to make simple things like any new person would. I don't expect to know how to do this in a couple of weeks, but it sure helps me set a destination to build my path towards. Creating basic blocks and learning my way around, either way thank you for the welcome :)

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Here are some good tutorials to get started with:

https://github.com/Cadiboo/Example-Mod

https://github.com/TheGreyGhost/MinecraftByExample/tree/master/src/main/java/minecraftbyexample

 

57 minutes ago, Solar_Wraith said:

general tips that I should know as someone new to modding

Avoid tutorials on YouTube (personal opinion), as most youtube tutorials have terrible practices (fact).

I've personally went through the horrible experience of adapting to the conventions of youtube tutorials and had to gone back to rewrite thousands of lines of code.

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4 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Here are some good tutorials to get started with:

https://github.com/Cadiboo/Example-Mod

https://github.com/TheGreyGhost/MinecraftByExample/tree/master/src/main/java/minecraftbyexample

 

Avoid tutorials on YouTube (personal opinion), as most youtube tutorials have terrible practices (fact).

I've personally went through the horrible experience of adapting to the conventions of youtube tutorials and had to gone back and rewrite thousands of lines of code.

Hello and thank you for the links, I started off by browsing and watching whatever there was to teach me how to setup the workspace. I will definetly refrain from watching youtube videos in the future, thank you!

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The vast majority of YT tutorials out there are written by people who are just as new to modding as you are. Would you trust their advice? 

 

They're so excited that they got something to work, they just HAD to share. 

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10 minutes ago, Draco18s said:

They're so excited that they got something to work, they just HAD to share

Which is a great impulse, however the way they got stuff to work was convoluted, unstable and overly-complicated. This isn’t that much of an issue in itself, they can go back and fix their code. The issue is that this code is not suitable for tutorials.

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@Solar_Wraith, I am also new so thank you for starting this thread! Really good advice here so thanks all.

 

If I may (let me know if I need to start a new thread) Could someone point me in the direction (link would be awesome) of how to create a new biome that should be included in the Overworld? I’ve been able to register the Bioime but I am unsure how to get it into the chunk loader (probably just a simple oversight on my part but there you have it). I wasn’t seeing anything in the above linked tutorials, which may again be due to oversight. Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.

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9 hours ago, DarkAlchemist said:

@Solar_Wraith, I am also new so thank you for starting this thread! Really good advice here so thanks all.

 

If I may (let me know if I need to start a new thread) Could someone point me in the direction (link would be awesome) of how to create a new biome that should be included in the Overworld? I’ve been able to register the Bioime but I am unsure how to get it into the chunk loader (probably just a simple oversight on my part but there you have it). I wasn’t seeing anything in the above linked tutorials, which may again be due to oversight. Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.

Make your own forum thread, this has nothing to do with this thread. In future don't hijack other threads. Jabelar has some tutorials on stuff like this at http://jabelarminecraft.blogspot.com

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On 3/14/2019 at 4:43 PM, DavidM said:

Here are some good tutorials to get started with:

https://github.com/Cadiboo/Example-Mod

https://github.com/TheGreyGhost/MinecraftByExample/tree/master/src/main/java/minecraftbyexample

 

Avoid tutorials on YouTube (personal opinion), as most youtube tutorials have terrible practices (fact).

I've personally went through the horrible experience of adapting to the conventions of youtube tutorials and had to gone back to rewrite thousands of lines of code.

Apologies for quoting you, however I wanted to know what is the major difference between intellij and eclipse? Right now I've got both but already got workspace setup for eclipse, is there a specific thing each program differentiates from another? Or are they both very similar in workflow and the changes are minor?

 

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2 hours ago, Solar_Wraith said:

Apologies for quoting you, however I wanted to know what is the major difference between intellij and eclipse? Right now I've got both but already got workspace setup for eclipse, is there a specific thing each program differentiates from another? Or are they both very similar in workflow and the changes are minor?

 

Thanks.

They're just different IDEs. Some folks like one, some folks like the other.

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3 hours ago, Solar_Wraith said:

is there a specific thing each program differentiates from another? Or are they both very similar in workflow and the changes are minor?

They are all IDEs; their aim is the same: make programming easier. There might be some difference in the features of the IDEs, but they are fundamentally the same.

Which IDE to use completely depends on your personal preference; it is almost like the question “Pepsi or Coke?”

 

Also, in the future, please create another thread for questions that are not relevant to the current thread.

 

P.S. Pepsi is terrible.

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1. Do not follow tutorials on YouTube, especially TechnoVision (previously called Loremaster) and HarryTalks, due to their promotion of bad practice and usage of outdated code.

2. Always post your code.

3. Never copy and paste code. You won't learn anything from doing that.

4. 

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5. Learn to use your IDE, especially the debugger.

6.

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Support & Bug Reports:

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1 minute ago, DavidM said:

They are all IDEs; their aim is the same: make programming easier. There might be some difference in the features of the IDEs, but they are mainly the same.

Which IDE to use completely depends on your personal preference; it is almost like the question “Pepsi or Coke?”

 

Also, in the future, please create another thread for questions that are not relevant to the current thread.

Okay no problem, thank you for all the replies!

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[MineStrator Daemon]: Finished pulling Docker container image container@pterodactyl~ java -version openjdk version "17.0.10" 2024-01-16 OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.10+7 (build 17.0.10+7) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.10+7 (build 17.0.10+7, mixed mode, sharing) container@pterodactyl~ java -Xms128M -Xmx6302M -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -Djline.terminal=jline.UnsupportedTerminal -p libraries/cpw/mods/bootstraplauncher/1.1.2/bootstraplauncher-1.1.2.jar:libraries/cpw/mods/securejarhandler/2.1.4/securejarhandler-2.1.4.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-commons/9.5/asm-commons-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-util/9.5/asm-util-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-analysis/9.5/asm-analysis-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-tree/9.5/asm-tree-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm/9.5/asm-9.5.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/JarJarFileSystems/0.3.16/JarJarFileSystems-0.3.16.jar --add-modules ALL-MODULE-PATH --add-opens java.base/java.util.jar=cpw.mods.securejarhandler --add-opens java.base/java.lang.invoke=cpw.mods.securejarhandler --add-exports java.base/sun.security.util=cpw.mods.securejarhandler --add-exports jdk.naming.dns/com.sun.jndi.dns=java.naming -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=system -DignoreList=bootstraplauncher-1.1.2.jar,securejarhandler-2.1.4.jar,asm-commons-9.5.jar,asm-util-9.5.jar,asm-analysis-9.5.jar,asm-tree-9.5.jar,asm-9.5.jar,JarJarFileSystems-0.3.16.jar -DlibraryDirectory=libraries -DlegacyClassPath=libraries/cpw/mods/securejarhandler/2.1.4/securejarhandler-2.1.4.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm/9.5/asm-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-commons/9.5/asm-commons-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-tree/9.5/asm-tree-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-util/9.5/asm-util-9.5.jar:libraries/org/ow2/asm/asm-analysis/9.5/asm-analysis-9.5.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/accesstransformers/8.0.4/accesstransformers-8.0.4.jar:libraries/org/antlr/antlr4-runtime/4.9.1/antlr4-runtime-4.9.1.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/eventbus/6.0.3/eventbus-6.0.3.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/forgespi/6.0.0/forgespi-6.0.0.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/coremods/5.0.1/coremods-5.0.1.jar:libraries/cpw/mods/modlauncher/10.0.8/modlauncher-10.0.8.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/unsafe/0.2.0/unsafe-0.2.0.jar:libraries/com/electronwill/night-config/core/3.6.4/core-3.6.4.jar:libraries/com/electronwill/night-config/toml/3.6.4/toml-3.6.4.jar:libraries/org/apache/maven/maven-artifact/3.8.5/maven-artifact-3.8.5.jar:libraries/net/jodah/typetools/0.8.3/typetools-0.8.3.jar:libraries/net/minecrell/terminalconsoleappender/1.2.0/terminalconsoleappender-1.2.0.jar:libraries/org/jline/jline-reader/3.12.1/jline-reader-3.12.1.jar:libraries/org/jline/jline-terminal/3.12.1/jline-terminal-3.12.1.jar:libraries/org/spongepowered/mixin/0.8.5/mixin-0.8.5.jar:libraries/org/openjdk/nashorn/nashorn-core/15.3/nashorn-core-15.3.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/JarJarSelector/0.3.16/JarJarSelector-0.3.16.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/JarJarMetadata/0.3.16/JarJarMetadata-0.3.16.jar:libraries/net/minecraftforge/fmlloader/1.19.2-43.3.0/fmlloader-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar:libraries/net/minecraft/server/1.19.2-20220805.130853/server-1.19.2-20220805.130853-extra.jar:libraries/com/github/oshi/oshi-core/5.8.5/oshi-core-5.8.5.jar:libraries/com/google/code/gson/gson/2.8.9/gson-2.8.9.jar:libraries/com/google/guava/failureaccess/1.0.1/failureaccess-1.0.1.jar:libraries/com/google/guava/guava/31.0.1-jre/guava-31.0.1-jre.jar:libraries/com/mojang/authlib/3.11.49/authlib-3.11.49.jar:libraries/com/mojang/brigadier/1.0.18/brigadier-1.0.18.jar:libraries/com/mojang/datafixerupper/5.0.28/datafixerupper-5.0.28.jar:libraries/com/mojang/javabridge/1.2.24/javabridge-1.2.24.jar:libraries/com/mojang/logging/1.0.0/logging-1.0.0.jar:libraries/commons-io/commons-io/2.11.0/commons-io-2.11.0.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-buffer/4.1.77.Final/netty-buffer-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-codec/4.1.77.Final/netty-codec-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-common/4.1.77.Final/netty-common-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-handler/4.1.77.Final/netty-handler-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-resolver/4.1.77.Final/netty-resolver-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-transport/4.1.77.Final/netty-transport-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-transport-classes-epoll/4.1.77.Final/netty-transport-classes-epoll-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-transport-native-epoll/4.1.77.Final/netty-transport-native-epoll-4.1.77.Final-linux-x86_64.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-transport-native-epoll/4.1.77.Final/netty-transport-native-epoll-4.1.77.Final-linux-aarch_64.jar:libraries/io/netty/netty-transport-native-unix-common/4.1.77.Final/netty-transport-native-unix-common-4.1.77.Final.jar:libraries/it/unimi/dsi/fastutil/8.5.6/fastutil-8.5.6.jar:libraries/net/java/dev/jna/jna/5.10.0/jna-5.10.0.jar:libraries/net/java/dev/jna/jna-platform/5.10.0/jna-platform-5.10.0.jar:libraries/net/sf/jopt-simple/jopt-simple/5.0.4/jopt-simple-5.0.4.jar:libraries/org/apache/commons/commons-lang3/3.12.0/commons-lang3-3.12.0.jar:libraries/org/apache/logging/log4j/log4j-api/2.17.0/log4j-api-2.17.0.jar:libraries/org/apache/logging/log4j/log4j-core/2.17.0/log4j-core-2.17.0.jar:libraries/org/apache/logging/log4j/log4j-slf4j18-impl/2.17.0/log4j-slf4j18-impl-2.17.0.jar:libraries/org/slf4j/slf4j-api/1.8.0-beta4/slf4j-api-1.8.0-beta4.jar cpw.mods.bootstraplauncher.BootstrapLauncher --launchTarget forgeserver --fml.forgeVersion 43.3.0 --fml.mcVersion 1.19.2 --fml.forgeGroup net.minecraftforge --fml.mcpVersion 20220805.130853 [00:02:42] [main/INFO] [cp.mo.mo.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher running: args [--launchTarget, forgeserver, --fml.forgeVersion, 43.3.0, --fml.mcVersion, 1.19.2, --fml.forgeGroup, net.minecraftforge, --fml.mcpVersion, 20220805.130853] [00:02:42] [main/INFO] [cp.mo.mo.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher 10.0.8+10.0.8+main.0ef7e830 starting: java version 17.0.10 by Eclipse Adoptium; OS Linux arch amd64 version 6.1.0-12-amd64 [00:02:43] [main/INFO] [mixin/]: SpongePowered MIXIN Subsystem Version=0.8.5 Source=union:/home/container/libraries/org/spongepowered/mixin/0.8.5/mixin-0.8.5.jar%2363!/ Service=ModLauncher Env=SERVER [00:02:43] [main/WARN] [ne.mi.fm.lo.mo.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/fmlcore/1.19.2-43.3.0/fmlcore-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [00:02:43] [main/WARN] [ne.mi.fm.lo.mo.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/javafmllanguage/1.19.2-43.3.0/javafmllanguage-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [00:02:43] [main/WARN] [ne.mi.fm.lo.mo.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/lowcodelanguage/1.19.2-43.3.0/lowcodelanguage-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [00:02:43] [main/WARN] [ne.mi.fm.lo.mo.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/mclanguage/1.19.2-43.3.0/mclanguage-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [00:02:44] [main/WARN] [ne.mi.ja.se.JarSelector/]: Attempted to select two dependency jars from JarJar which have the same identification: Mod File: and Mod File: . Using Mod File: [00:02:44] [main/WARN] [ne.mi.ja.se.JarSelector/]: Attempted to select a dependency jar for JarJar which was passed in as source: resourcefullib. Using Mod File: /home/container/mods/resourcefullib-forge-1.19.2-1.1.24.jar [00:02:44] [main/INFO] [ne.mi.fm.lo.mo.JarInJarDependencyLocator/]: Found 13 dependencies adding them to mods collection Latest log [29Mar2024 00:02:42.803] [main/INFO] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher running: args [--launchTarget, forgeserver, --fml.forgeVersion, 43.3.0, --fml.mcVersion, 1.19.2, --fml.forgeGroup, net.minecraftforge, --fml.mcpVersion, 20220805.130853] [29Mar2024 00:02:42.805] [main/INFO] [cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher/MODLAUNCHER]: ModLauncher 10.0.8+10.0.8+main.0ef7e830 starting: java version 17.0.10 by Eclipse Adoptium; OS Linux arch amd64 version 6.1.0-12-amd64 [29Mar2024 00:02:43.548] [main/INFO] [mixin/]: SpongePowered MIXIN Subsystem Version=0.8.5 Source=union:/home/container/libraries/org/spongepowered/mixin/0.8.5/mixin-0.8.5.jar%2363!/ Service=ModLauncher Env=SERVER [29Mar2024 00:02:43.876] [main/WARN] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.moddiscovery.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/fmlcore/1.19.2-43.3.0/fmlcore-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [29Mar2024 00:02:43.877] [main/WARN] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.moddiscovery.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/javafmllanguage/1.19.2-43.3.0/javafmllanguage-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [29Mar2024 00:02:43.877] [main/WARN] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.moddiscovery.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/lowcodelanguage/1.19.2-43.3.0/lowcodelanguage-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [29Mar2024 00:02:43.878] [main/WARN] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.moddiscovery.ModFileParser/LOADING]: Mod file /home/container/libraries/net/minecraftforge/mclanguage/1.19.2-43.3.0/mclanguage-1.19.2-43.3.0.jar is missing mods.toml file [29Mar2024 00:02:44.033] [main/WARN] [net.minecraftforge.jarjar.selection.JarSelector/]: Attempted to select two dependency jars from JarJar which have the same identification: Mod File: and Mod File: . Using Mod File: [29Mar2024 00:02:44.034] [main/WARN] [net.minecraftforge.jarjar.selection.JarSelector/]: Attempted to select a dependency jar for JarJar which was passed in as source: resourcefullib. Using Mod File: /home/container/mods/resourcefullib-forge-1.19.2-1.1.24.jar [29Mar2024 00:02:44.034] [main/INFO] [net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.moddiscovery.JarInJarDependencyLocator/]: Found 13 dependencies adding them to mods collection
    • I am unable to do that. Brigadier is a mojang library that parses commands.
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