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Tycho Tree Puncher

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I was just wondering: how long, roughly, can we expect to wait for the wiki's beginners' tutorials to be updated for the new way of things? I apparently chose a bad time to try to penetrate the MC modding community, but I've decided that I would rather learn to mod on Forge than on ModLoader.

 

The tutorials presented seem to be obsolete, and the thread explaining the new way Forge works didn't seem to be aimed at beginners. I only have a single college semester's object-oriented Java experience, so...

 

I would just love to know when they'll be updated, or if there are some other tutorials I should check out. Cheers, in any case.

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I was wondering the same thing. With the 1.3.1 patch combining SSP and SMP, and the totally new forge , and the fact that we will have a modding API in 1.4, this was probably a really bad time to start modding :(

 

 

However,  I've found a relatively decent tutorial for ModLoader at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/960286-techguys-modding-tutorials/ that is almost fully updated to 1.3, I'd say about 90% updated. This should keep me going until the flames in the forge have settled down (see what I did there? :D)

The above views are my own. You can agree, and be correct, or disagree with them, I don't mind.

 

P.S: you'll be wrong if you do :)

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I was wondering the same thing. With the 1.3.1 patch combining SSP and SMP, and the totally new forge , and the fact that we will have a modding API in 1.4, this was probably a really bad time to start modding :(

 

 

However,  I've found a relatively decent tutorial for ModLoader at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/960286-techguys-modding-tutorials/ that is almost fully updated to 1.3, I'd say about 90% updated. This should keep me going until the flames in the forge have settled down (see what I did there? :D)

 

I actually (now that I messed around with Forge 1.3.1 a bit), know a brief idea on how things are going to work. The new system is a lot cleaner than the old one. No more mod_XXX classes. Everything works via annotations.

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Tycho Tree Puncher

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(a vain thing to ask on the Minecraft Forge forums, no doubt, but,) If there is going to be an official API in the next big update, would it be smarter for me to wait until then so I can learn from scratch in that system?

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A few things:

The official API will be incomplete, focused on server stuff only at first from what they said.

It is still a long *long* way away, they said many months at best.

Forge will still be necessary for many advanced functionality that the mod API could never really offer due to it being an abstraction.

 

Also, this has been talked to death all over the place and we are kind of tired of that question.

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Writer of the beginner tutorial on the wiki here. ;)

I am myself only just getting my hands into forge and learning it bit by bit. The reason I wrote that tutorial was because there is absolutely no good beginner help available for forge besides the open source ironchests mod so I wanted to change that bit by bit. The wiki beginner tutorial series will be updated and continued as soon as I feel confident enough in my knowledge of forge that I can provide a good starting point.

My tutorial series on the wiki has been discontinued until I get the hang of forge for 3.1.x and just everything from forge in general.

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org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-coroutines-core-jvm 1.7.1        |-- org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-coroutines-jdk8 1.7.1        |-- org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-datetime-jvm 0.4.0        |-- org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-serialization-cbor-jvm 1.5.1        |-- org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-serialization-core-jvm 1.5.1        \-- org_jetbrains_kotlinx_kotlinx-serialization-json-jvm 1.5.1     - fabricloader 0.15.11        \-- mixinextras 0.3.5     - feather release/756b8dc6     - ferritecore 5.0.3     - forcecloseloadingscreen 1.1.1     - ias 8.0.1     - inventoryhud 3.4.2     - itemmodelfix 1.0.3+1.19     - java 17     - kronhud 1.19.2-2.2.3     - lessglintythings 1.3.2     - memoryleakfix 1.1.1     - minecraft 1.19.2     - mixin-conflict-helper 1.2.0     - modmenu 4.2.0-beta.2     - morecosmetics 1.2     - nametagping 1.19.2-1.2     - optifabric 1.13.24        \-- mm 2.3     - perspektive 1.2.1     - recursiveresources 2.4.3+1.19        |-- cicada 0.4.0        \-- shared-resources-api 1.5.0     - shulkerboxtooltip 3.2.2+1.19.2     - slotlock 1.1.1-BETA+1.19     - timechanger 1.2.0        \-- midnightlib 0.5.2     - ukulib 0.6.1+1.19.2        |-- com_moandjiezana_toml_toml4j 0.7.2        \-- gs_mclo_java_mclogs-java 2.1.1     - waveycapes 1.3.2     - whoami 1.0     - xaerobetterpvp 24.1.1     - yet-another-config-lib 2.2.0-for-1.19.2 info: [13:51:13] [main/INFO]: SpongePowered MIXIN Subsystem Version=0.8.5 Source=file:/C:/Users/Dell/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/libraries/java/net/fabricmc/sponge-mixin/0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5/sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar Service=Knot/Fabric Env=CLIENT info: [13:51:13] [main/INFO]: Compatibility level set to JAVA_16 info: [13:51:13] [main/INFO]: Compatibility level set to JAVA_17 info: [13:51:13] [main/INFO]: [Feather::EssentialMod] Installed: false info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Reference map 'shared-resources-api-refmap.json' for shared-resources-api.mixins.json could not be read. If this is a development environment you can ignore this message info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Error loading class: me/jellysquid/mods/sodium/client/gui/options/control/SliderControl (java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: me/jellysquid/mods/sodium/client/gui/options/control/SliderControl) info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Error loading class: me/jellysquid/mods/sodium/client/gui/options/OptionImpl (java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: me/jellysquid/mods/sodium/client/gui/options/OptionImpl) info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Force disabled MC-121772 because it only applies to OS: MAC [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Force disabled MC-122477 because it only applies to OS: LINUX info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Force disabled MC-22882 because it only applies to OS: MAC info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Force disabled MC-228976 because it's conflicting with: entitycollisionfpsfix info: [13:51:14] [main/WARN]: Force disabled MC-249059 because it's conflicting with: forcecloseloadingscreen info: [13:51:15] [main/INFO]: [MemoryLeakFix] Will be applying 4 memory leak fixes! [13:51:15] [main/INFO]: [MemoryLeakFix] Currently enabled memory leak fixes: [targetEntityLeak, entityMemoriesLeak, biomeTemperatureLeak, hugeScreenshotLeak] info: [13:51:15] [main/WARN]: Error loading class: org/jetbrains/annotations/ApiStatus$Internal (java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org/jetbrains/annotations/ApiStatus$Internal) error: Failed to setup optifine: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/fabricmc/tinyremapper/IMappingProvider     at me.modmuss50.optifabric.mod.OptifabricSetup.run(OptifabricSetup.java:46)     at java.base/java.util.ArrayList.forEach(Unknown Source)     at com.chocohead.mm.Plugin.getMixins(Plugin.java:340)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.PluginHandle.getMixins(PluginHandle.java:128)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinConfig.postInitialise(MixinConfig.java:796)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinProcessor.prepareConfigs(MixinProcessor.java:568)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinProcessor.select(MixinProcessor.java:462)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinProcessor.checkSelect(MixinProcessor.java:438)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinProcessor.applyMixins(MixinProcessor.java:290)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinTransformer.transformClass(MixinTransformer.java:234)     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinTransformer.transformClassBytes(MixinTransformer.java:202)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.getPostMixinClassByteArray(KnotClassDelegate.java:422)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.tryLoadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:323)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.loadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:218)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassLoader.loadClass(KnotClassLoader.java:119)     at java.base/java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)     at java.base/java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)     at java.base/java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.util.DefaultLanguageAdapter.create(DefaultLanguageAdapter.java:50)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.entrypoint.EntrypointStorage$NewEntry.getOrCreate(EntrypointStorage.java:117)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.entrypoint.EntrypointContainerImpl.getEntrypoint(EntrypointContainerImpl.java:53)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.FabricLoaderImpl.invokeEntrypoints(FabricLoaderImpl.java:384)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.Knot.init(Knot.java:160)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.Knot.launch(Knot.java:68)     at net.fabricmc.loader.launch.knot.KnotClient.main(KnotClient.java:28)     at java.base/jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)     at java.base/jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)     at java.base/jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)     at java.base/java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)     at net.digitalingot.rustextension.ProxiedStart.main(ProxiedStart.java:16) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.fabricmc.tinyremapper.IMappingProvider     at java.base/jdk.internal.loader.BuiltinClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)     at java.base/java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.loadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:226)     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassLoader.loadClass(KnotClassLoader.java:119)     at java.base/java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)     ... 30 more info: [13:51:15] [main/WARN]: Error loading class: net/optifine/Config (java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net/optifine/Config) info: [13:51:15] [main/INFO]: Initializing MixinExtras via com.llamalad7.mixinextras.service.MixinExtrasServiceImpl(version=0.3.5). info: [13:51:15] [main/ERROR]: Minecraft has crashed! net.fabricmc.loader.impl.FormattedException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Mixin transformation of net.minecraft.class_155 failed     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.FormattedException.ofLocalized(FormattedException.java:63) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.game.minecraft.MinecraftGameProvider.launch(MinecraftGameProvider.java:472) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.Knot.launch(Knot.java:74) [fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.launch.knot.KnotClient.main(KnotClient.java:28) [fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) ~[?:?]     at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]     at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]     at net.digitalingot.rustextension.ProxiedStart.main(ProxiedStart.java:16) [rust-extension-1.0.7.jar:?] Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Mixin transformation of net.minecraft.class_155 failed     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.getPostMixinClassByteArray(KnotClassDelegate.java:427) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.tryLoadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:323) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.loadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:218) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassLoader.loadClass(KnotClassLoader.java:119) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]     at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.method_44604(Main.java:55) ~[minecraft-1.19.2.jar:?]     at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(Main.java:51) ~[minecraft-1.19.2.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.game.minecraft.MinecraftGameProvider.launch(MinecraftGameProvider.java:470) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     ... 7 more Caused by: org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.throwables.MixinTransformerError: An unexpected critical error was encountered     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinProcessor.applyMixins(MixinProcessor.java:392) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinTransformer.transformClass(MixinTransformer.java:234) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinTransformer.transformClassBytes(MixinTransformer.java:202) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.getPostMixinClassByteArray(KnotClassDelegate.java:422) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.tryLoadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:323) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.loadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:218) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassLoader.loadClass(KnotClassLoader.java:119) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]     at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.method_44604(Main.java:55) ~[minecraft-1.19.2.jar:?]     at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(Main.java:51) ~[minecraft-1.19.2.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.game.minecraft.MinecraftGameProvider.launch(MinecraftGameProvider.java:470) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     ... 7 more Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: class com.llamalad7.mixinextras.lib.apache.commons.tuple.ImmutablePair cannot be cast to class org.apache.commons.lang3.tuple.Pair (com.llamalad7.mixinextras.lib.apache.commons.tuple.ImmutablePair and org.apache.commons.lang3.tuple.Pair are in unnamed module of loader net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassLoader @66a3ffec)     at ca.fxco.memoryleakfix.config.mixinExtension.UnMixinExtension.preApply(UnMixinExtension.java:23) ~[memoryleakfix-fabric-1.17+-1.1.1.temp.jar:?]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.ext.Extensions.preApply(Extensions.java:156) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.TargetClassContext.preApply(TargetClassContext.java:414) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.TargetClassContext.applyMixins(TargetClassContext.java:401) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinProcessor.applyMixins(MixinProcessor.java:363) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinTransformer.transformClass(MixinTransformer.java:234) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.MixinTransformer.transformClassBytes(MixinTransformer.java:202) ~[sponge-mixin-0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5.jar:0.13.4+mixin.0.8.5]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.getPostMixinClassByteArray(KnotClassDelegate.java:422) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.tryLoadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:323) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassDelegate.loadClass(KnotClassDelegate.java:218) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClassLoader.loadClass(KnotClassLoader.java:119) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]     at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.method_44604(Main.java:55) ~[minecraft-1.19.2.jar:?]     at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(Main.java:51) ~[minecraft-1.19.2.jar:?]     at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.game.minecraft.MinecraftGameProvider.launch(MinecraftGameProvider.java:470) ~[fabric-loader-0.15.11.jar:?]     ... 7 more info: [2024-05-08T11:51:15Z INFO  rust_launcher::start::bindings] launch stalled  
    • Bubbles Walker
      crash when getting to loading the mods

      By Bubbles Walker · Posted

      It worked, thank you =D
    • TileEntity
      modded server - "internal exception: [...] Payload may not be larger than 1048576 bytes"

      By TileEntity · Posted

      Add PacketFixer: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/packet-fixer
    • TileEntity
      Crash server pack

      By TileEntity · Posted

      torohealth and legendarytooltips are client-side-only mods Remove these from your server, keep these in your client

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